tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post4731728599507457289..comments2024-03-26T10:31:54.453-07:00Comments on Book of Mormon setting: On Smurfs and hammersjonathan3dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05379975395372054926noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post-52056720440542019392016-08-02T07:28:50.420-07:002016-08-02T07:28:50.420-07:00BMAF is harmless. It's a club for people who t...BMAF is harmless. It's a club for people who try to fit the Book of Mormon into Mesoamerica. They're all nice and well-meaning. They have traditions they want to hold onto, like many other groups.jonathan3dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379975395372054926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post-64496584913243915912016-08-01T22:20:47.816-07:002016-08-01T22:20:47.816-07:00This is weird. An official message from the brethr...This is weird. An official message from the brethren in a obscure blog post comment? All too strange. Am I alone here? <br><br>But seriously, dudes, if you don't like it, don't like it, but don't perpetuate the inverse of what you "want" to stop. It's like, saying, "Hey Jonathon, we should stop fighting. And you're a doo doo head."Roryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464871210618980262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post-41894896237063492382016-07-30T12:23:50.487-07:002016-07-30T12:23:50.487-07:00BMAF, thanks for your interest. From my perspectiv...BMAF, thanks for your interest. From my perspective, the bickering is over. The issues are down to clear choices people can make. There's no need to bicker over them. BMAF rejects Letter VII. I accept it. I have no problem agreeing to disagree about that. Same with the Times and Seasons articles; there is no evidence that Joseph had anything to do with those articles, and plenty of evidence that he had nothing to do with them, but BMAF continues to assume he did. We can agree to disagree about that. It's very simple. No bickering involved. Just choices.<br><br>BMAF keeps appealing to authority: "the fact that those who have studied this subject for years and whose education in many disciplines leads them to Mesoamerica don't indulge in "group think" but in a commonality of conclusions."<br><br>In reality, many people who have studied this subject for years completely disagree with the Groupthink perpetuated by BMAF and the rest. If you look at the composition of the editors and contributors to BMAF, FairMormon, Interpreter, Book of Mormon Central, FARMS, Meridian, and the rest, they all reject Letter VII. (Well, okay, I have contributed 3 items to BOMC, to their credit, but so far as I know, these are the only 3 out of 2,044 items in their archive written by someone who accepts Letter VII.) There is not a single person formally associated with these groups who challenges the Mesoamerican Groupthink. This is evident from their respective mission statements. (Although BOMC is officially neutral, it merged with BMAF which still focuses exclusively on the Book of Mormon "within a Mesoamerican context." That's pure Groupthink.<br><br>If BMAF wants to show it is not merely a Groupthink forum--a club for Mesoamerican proponents--then publish some of my material on your web site. How about it?jonathan3dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05379975395372054926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post-41651367688910964672016-07-30T10:14:20.507-07:002016-07-30T10:14:20.507-07:00So, since Jonathan comes to a different conclusion...So, since Jonathan comes to a different conclusion than BMAF he is supposed to stop blogging? Since that is somehow "devisive?" (Note the proper spelling is "divisive." Somehow I expected more from BMAF). <br><br>Just like Galileo, Jonathan is taking on those who are educated in many disciplines yet remain in error, and refuse to acknowledge the truth. But in the end truth will prevail. And then maybe we can come to a "unity of the truth."<br><br>But the longer the "Book of Mormon primarily took place in Mesoamerica cartel" persists in their obvious error the more foolish they will appear. <br><br>Jonathan attempted to bring a unity on the subject, not divisiveness. So now he has put it out to the court of public opinion, the court of last resort.<br><br>Steven Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02291046612560917501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post-29272449269470928352016-07-30T07:17:54.938-07:002016-07-30T07:17:54.938-07:00The "Brethren" are desirous that we stop...The "Brethren" are desirous that we stop the bickering, yet you continue to blog devisive material. Adding "Are Over" to your title doesn't mask your obvious disdain for the Mesoamerican BofM model. You use every lawyers' rhetoric trick to bypass the fact that those who have studied this subject for years and whose education in many disciplines leads them to Mesoamerica don't indulge in "group think" but in a commonality of conclusions.Book of Mormon Archaeological Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13179667819446986439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6275804374019732213.post-82562157689524488042016-07-29T16:32:07.022-07:002016-07-29T16:32:07.022-07:00I, for one, am glad that you've indulged, and ...I, for one, am glad that you've indulged, and have kept on writing. I have learned a great deal from your books and blogs.Steven Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02291046612560917501noreply@blogger.com