Ward Radio released our interview about international Heartlanders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaqy-y5ThBc
Ward Radio does a great job presenting multiple working hypotheses, which is the healthiest approach to these issues. I could have given more examples, and the comments show that viewers around the world know exactly what I was talking about.
I usually don't get a chance to comment on YouTube comments, but this time I did. One in particular surprised me. I'm posting it here instead of just writing to Jerry because he posted it on YouTube.
@jerrygrover8992 22 hours ago (edited)
One big problem with statement that in Oman on the coast (likely Bountiful location) had honey harvested in the fall. It is NOT harvested in the fall.
In spring and early summer in Oman, most beekeepers hive their colonies in the Sarawat Mountains where several important bee plants, such as Acacia spp., Conyza spp., Lavandula spp., and Zilla spinosa, flower. In autumn and winter, the beekeepers move to the Tihama coastal region with the blooming of Ziziphus spina-christi, Acacia assak, Rhanterium eppaposum and Blepharis spp. (Sorry this site does not allow links to be posted or I would include the source). So honey production is basically year round in Oman, and again, since the Lehite group was more likely limited to the coast, the honey would have been harvested in the SPRING, not the autumn, again 100 percent contradicting the argument that he and other Heartlanders make that they caught the monsoon winds going to the south and thus had to go around Africa.
He is actually MAKING THE ARGUMENT FOR A PACIFIC CROSSING! Any Pacific crossing would render the Heartland theory impossible.
Before I post my response, I emphasize that Jerry's awesome, a great guy and usually careful with sources. I don't know what happened here.
Because I was curious if I had overlooked something, either during my visit to Oman or during my research, I googled his quotation and only one source had his quotation, albeit with some significant differences.
Saudi J Biol Sci. 2014 Jul; 21(3): 256–264.
Published online 2013 Nov 19. doi: 10.1016/j.sjbs.2013.10.007
PMCID: PMC4061414
PMID: 24955011
Performance evaluation of indigenous and exotic honey bee (Apis mellifera L.) races in Assir region, southwestern Saudi Arabia (emphasis added)
Abdulaziz S. Alqarni,a,∗ Hassan M. Balhareth,b and Ayman A. Owayssa
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4061414/
Compare what Jerry wrote to the original article. Jerry's changes are in bold.
Jerry:
In spring and early summer in Oman, most beekeepers hive their colonies in the Sarawat Mountains where several important bee plants, such as Acacia spp., Conyza spp., Lavandula spp., and Zilla spinosa, flower. In autumn and winter, the beekeepers move to the Tihama coastal region with the blooming of Ziziphus spina-christi, Acacia assak, Rhanterium eppaposum and Blepharis spp.
The original article about Saudi Arabia.
In spring and early summer, most beekeepers hive their colonies in the Sarawat Mountains while several important bee plants, such as Acacia spp., Conyza spp., Lavandula spp., and Zilla spinosa, flower. In autumn and winter, the beekeepers move to the Tihama coastal region with the blooming of Ziziphus spina-christi, Acacia assak, Rhanterium eppaposum and Blepharis spp. (Alqarni, 1995).
The Tihama coastal region is along the Red Sea in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. It has no connection with Oman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tihamah
Here's my response to Jerry's YouTube comment:
@jonathann3d 17 minutes ago
Good question to discuss. But Jerry, your source (easy to google found at nih.gov) was discussing Saudi Arabia, not Oman. The Tihama coast is on the Red Sea. It's not clear why you inserted "in Oman" but anyone who looks can see the article is about Saudi Arabia. FWIW, we looked into this when we visited Salalah in Oman. Monsoons come between June and September. That's why they harvest fruit in the fall. "Oman's varied and unique weather helps to grow a large variety of plants, fruit trees and various crops throughout the year. Jabal Al Akhdar produces the maximum variety of fruits.... During September and October, Jabal Al Akhdar transforms into a fruit paradise with the full-blown goodness of luscious fruits." (easily found website) Modern bee culture likely differs somewhat from ancient, but they harvest honey year-round. Currently in Oman "There are two main types of honey: Sidr (ziziphus-spina-christi) and it is light coloured and flavoured honey, and Simr (Acacia tortilis), which is thick and dark honey. The Sidr season is in the winter (October-November) and the Simr season is in the summer during the months June-July." (easily found on youtube).
Here are two photos from my visit to Oman:
And a discussion:
https://www.bookofmormoncentralamerica.com/2022/03/lehis-land-bountiful-in-oman.html
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