long ago ideas

“When we are tired, we are attacked by ideas we conquered long ago." - Friedrich Nietzsche. Long ago, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery conquered false claims that the Book of Mormon was fiction or that it came through a stone in a hat. But these old claims have resurfaced in recent years. To conquer them again, we have to return to what Joseph and Oliver taught.

Tuesday, June 10, 2025

End of M2C: what we mean

When we discuss the "end of M2C" on this blog, we don't mean M2C is going away. We don't mean most, or even many, M2Cers are going to change their minds. Confirmation bias* will persist.

People can and will believe whatever they want, and that's fine. 

We simply mean that M2C, as 

(i) the default assumption about the setting of the Book of Mormon and 

(ii) the dominant "consensus" among self-appointed Book of Mormon scholars, 

will be replaced with the more transparent, robust, and harmonious approach of "multiple working hypotheses." 

This is consistent with the Church's policy of neutrality on this issue, a position that every Latter-day Saint should embrace.

The pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding (and hence "no more contention") recognizes multiple working hypotheses because the objective is not unanimity or conformity, but intelligent, informed individuals making decisions for themselves. 


While everyone can (or should) agree on actual Facts, people diverge quickly when they formulate their own Assumptions, Inferences, Theories and ultimately their Hypotheses (the FAITH model). That's all good.

It's even better when people clearly articulate the differences between Facts on one hand, and Assumptions, Inferences, Theories and Hypotheses on the other.

It may not be easy for people to do, but it is essential to achieve no more contention.

As more and more Latter-day Saints and other believers in the Book of Mormon learn what Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, and their contemporaries taught, they see this as a viable alternative to M2C. 

They come to recognize the viability of the New York setting for the the hill Cumorah/Ramah and how extrinsic evidence corroborates the teachings of the prophets.

But they don't expect, let alone require, everyone to agree. They are happy for everyone to make informed choices instead of having to adopt what certain scholars teach.

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The pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding recognizes that the psychology of confirmation bias is powerful. 

Those who believe there is one Cumorah/Ramah in New York confirm these biases:

(i) Joseph, Oliver, their contemporaries and successors told the truth about the New York Cumorah/Ramah.

(ii) The text of the Book of Mormon and extrinsic evidence corroborate what they taught. 

The M2Cers confirm these biases:

(i) Oliver Cowdery, Joseph Smith, and their contemporaries imagined or concocted their accounts of what Moroni himself told Joseph Smith, as well as the experiences with Cumorah that they described.

(ii) The prophets and apostles who corroborated what Joseph and Oliver said were all wrong about the New York Cumorah/Ramah.

(iii) Scholars who developed and taught M2C have shown that the text of the Book of Mormon and extrinsic evidence corroborate M2C.

The more that people recognize and respect these biases, the more people will achieve and embrace clarity, charity and understanding.

And then we will achieve "no more contention" about the setting of the Book of Mormon.

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*Confirmation bias:

Confirmation Bias is the tendency to look for information that supports, rather than rejects, one’s preconceptions, typically by interpreting evidence to confirm existing beliefs while rejecting or ignoring any conflicting data (American Psychological Association).




Monday, June 9, 2025

Dartmouth collection: graphics

Some readers want a concise version of my review of the article about Dartmouth, so I'll summarize it here with the key graphics.

This is the article that was published in the John Whitmer Historical Association Journal in 2006. The link is here:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/43200240

The author concludes that:

Hyrum’s exposure to Dartmouth’s theology, cosmology, ancient language studies, architecture, Ethan Smith’s son Lyndon, and Solomon Spaulding’s nephew James Spaulding from Sharon, Vermont, who was attending the Medical School, all provided discussion material for tutoring Joseph during his long recovery from leg surgery that kept Joseph at home on crutches until the Smith family reached Palmyra.

His conclusion relies on three main claims he makes (not in this order):

1. The members of the extended family of the prophet Joseph Smith, who were an integral part of that community from 1771 to 1817.

2. The early Dartmouth community organized in the 1770s and its expanding curriculum through 1815 provided a unique vantage point from which Hyrum, who entered the Dartmouth community in 1811 and left in 1816, could perceptively view as well as participate in future Mormon doctrinal and community development.

3. Early Dartmouth intellectual inquiry focused on philosophical and theological questions, which challenged America as it emerged from New England Puritanism to face the challenges of the Enlightenment. Many of these same questions would later be systematically answered by the prophet Joseph Smith.

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Point 1. Extended family.

UC copy
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The author (Behrens) writes, "John Smith was born December 21, 1752, in Rowley, Massachusetts, to Joseph Smith and Elizabeth Palmer[1], both cousins of Asael Smith and Mary Duty, the paternal grandparents of the prophet Joseph Smith." 

[Actually, even if Behrens was correct about the common ancestry going back four generations, the idea that such a family connection would be meaningful seems implausible, but Behrens used a lot of space in his paper to establish this connection, so it should be addressed.]

Footnote 1 reads:

Sketches of the Alumni of Dartmouth College, George T. Chapman, D.D., (1867, Cambridge: Riverside Press), 15.

The note doesn't explain which copy of Sketches Behrens used or where it is located.

There are at least versions of Sketches online.

One is from the Univ of California.

The other is from Dartmouth itself.

There is a significant difference between the two.

The UCLA copy has no annotations. You can see in the entry at the bottom of the page that John Smith is identified as "the son of Joseph and Elisabeth (Palmer) Smith," which is what Behrens wrote in his paper and genealogical chart (his Exhibit 1).

Sketches, UC version, page 15
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Behrens' Exhibit 1 shows Elizabeth Palmer as the cousin of Joseph Smith Sr's grandmother on his mother's side, who was named Mary Palmer. Elizabeth Palmer married a Joseph Smith who was a first cousin of Samuel Smith, Joseph Smith Sr.'s grandfather on his father's side. 

Behrens' genealogy table, Exhibit 1
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So far, Behrens' identification looks valid.

However, the version of Sketches that Dartmouth put online has an annotation that contradicts Behrens' genealogy table. The annotation in the Dartmouth version of the John Smith entry shows a handwritten "Sawyer (?)" above Elizabeth's last name (Palmer). 


Sketches, Dartmouth version, page 15
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If Elizabeth's maiden name was Sawyer and not Palmer, then the Behrens' identification is an error and John Smith was not related to Joseph Smith's family, at least not with the purportedly close connection as shown by Behrens.

In the Introduction to its online edition of Sketches, Dartmouth explained that George Chapman published Sketches in 1867. He did not include non-graduates of the undergraduate College, nor did he include students at Moor's school.

The copy of Sketches that Dartmouth put online includes additions and annotations made by John M. Comstock, Class of 1877, who served as the statistical secretary for the Association of Alumni of Dartmouth College.



Introduction to Dartmouth's online edition
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Comstock's annotation indicates that John Smith's mother Elizabeth was a Sawyer, not a Palmer. One source he may have relied upon was the memoir of John Smith written by his widow, Susan Smith (who does not show up on Behrens' genealogical chart).

In her memoir, Susan explains that John's mother Elizabeth was a Sawyer.



John Smith memoir by his widow Susan
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The document is on the Dartmouth website on page 64 of 74.


The transcript of Susan's memoir: 

A Memoir of The Rev. John Smith D.D.

Professor of the oriental Languages

at Dartmouth College. 

The Rev. John Smith was born in Byfield Mass. Dec 21. 1752. It is not known by his descendents now living the date of the year his paternal ancestors emigrated to this country, but in examining Farmers Register we find the name of Joseph, which was his father's name, born in Newbury? in the year 1638, from him it is probable his father descended. His mother was a descendant of the Sawyer family, who came from England to this country in the year 1643, and settled in Rowley, Mass, where he was born and brought up. She was sister to Deacon Sawyer, who was among the first settlers of Hopkinton N. H. who was a man of much civil and religious influence in the town, respected, and beloved by all who knew him, he there lived and died at a very advanced age, leaving upward of 200 descendants. 

This evidence shows that the John Smith shown in Behrens' genealogy chart is not the same John Smith who taught at Dartmouth. Behrens made an understandable error.

The problem is that in his paper, Behrens actually referred to and cited Susan's memoir without telling readers that Susan's identification of John Smith's mother differed from what Behrens told his readers.
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Point 2. Hyrum's time in school.

The only record of Hyrum Smith's attendance (written as Hiram Smith) is for the first quarter of 1814.


Lucy Mack Smith's history relates that (i) sometime after the family moved to Lebanon in 1811, they enrolled Hyrum in the academy and (ii) when Hyrum got sick during an outbreak, he came home from school. She gave no specific dates and the records from Moor's school do not show Hyrum's name.

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Point 3. Early Dartmouth intellectual inquiry

The only known record of Hyrum's attendance, the list of students for the first quarter of 1814, shows Hyrum studying "Arithmetic" at Moor's school while his classmates were studying Virgil, Mathematics, Reading, English Grammar, Latin, and Greek. For Hyrum to be studying mere Arithmetic suggests he was behind his fellow students. 

While it's possible that the teenage Hyrum also "focused on philosophical and theological questions" discussed and debated at Dartmouth college, that seems far less likely than Hyrum struggling to keep up with his classmates at Moor's school.








 

 



Saturday, June 7, 2025

Dartmouth connection: more irrationality

There's a well-known paper titled "Dartmouth Arminianism And Its Impact on Hyrum Smith And the Smith Family" published in 2006 by the John Whitmer Historical Association Journal, written by Richard K. Behrens.

In the pursuit of clarity, charity, and understanding, I did a detailed review, which you can see here:

https://interpreterpeerreviews.blogspot.com/2025/06/behrens-paper-on-dartmouth.html

In the spirit of charity I assume Behrens researched and wrote in good faith. In 2006 there were probably not as many online sources. Maybe detailed citations were not expected back then, although I used to require them from students and from myself...

The paper is replete with conclusions about how deeply Dartmouth affected Hyrum for the rest of his life, including science, architecture, and theology.

But unfortunately the paper is also replete with factual errors, compound assumptions and inferences, poor to nonexistent citations, and logical fallacies. 

Conclusion: Unless and until additional evidence comes forth, the connection between Joseph Smith and Dartmouth is tenuous at best. The only connection is through his brother Hyrum, who attended Moor's school as a "Charity Scholar" for one quarter to learn "Arithmetic" while his classmates studied Virgil and Mathematics. 

Hyrum apparently taught Joseph about the arithmetic he had learned at Moor's school. Joseph mentioned in his 1832 history that “I was mearly instructtid in reading and writing and the ground <rules> of Arithmatic which const[it]uted my whole literary acquirements.” 

Beyond that, the connections with Dartmouth appear illusory at best.



Sunday, June 1, 2025

No More Contention update

We added this comment to the home page of MOBOM (Museum of the Book of Mormon).

https://www.mobom.org/

IMPORTANT: While there have been many controversies and arguments about the Book of Mormon, just as with the Bible, the Koran, and other holy writings, there is no need for contention about any of these. When we pursue clarity, charity and understanding of one another, we can easily and happily enjoy our mutual efforts to improve ourselves and make the world a better place for everyone.

See https://nomorecontention.blogspot.com/ 

I also posted a new comment on that blog:

https://nomorecontention.blogspot.com/2025/06/litigation-is-not-fact-finding.html

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We added more annotations to https://www.mobom.org/jonathan-edwards

And I noted this (but did not independently verify):


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Another way to avoid contention is to recognize some of the fun in these conversations about the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon, all in good nature.

https://funwithm2c.blogspot.com/2025/06/jerry-grover-on-volcanoes.html