long ago ideas

“When we are tired, we are attacked by ideas we conquered long ago." - Friedrich Nietzsche. Long ago, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery conquered false claims that the Book of Mormon was fiction or that it came through a stone in a hat. But these old claims have resurfaced in recent years. To conquer them again, we have to return to what Joseph and Oliver taught.

Thursday, April 30, 2015

Poulson's review of Norman

This is a short review of a short booklet, but it deserves mention because of the typical arguments it contains.

The Light Is Better Over Here
by Lawrence L. Poulsen
FARMS Review 19/2 (2007): 11–19.
ISSN: 1550-3194 (print), 2156-8049 (online)
Review of Book of Mormon Geography—Mesoamerican Historic Geography (2006), by V. Garth Norman.

http://publications.maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/review/19/2/S00003-5176a674083983Poulsen.pdf

Poulsen's title is explained in this excerpt from his review: "With so much light shed on the Maya, it is difficult to resist searching among Maya ruins for signs of Book of Mormon culture. After all, “the light is better over here.” In other words, there is more data and information about the Maya, so let’s look here first."

That is one of the best explanations for the Mesoamerican theory yet--all the more so because it came out of the Maxwell Institute. (Well, technically it's a FARMS publication, but as long as the Maxwell Institute continues to publish FARMS material, the Institute is responsible.)

Poulson goes on to write, "Unfortunately, the location of Book of Mormon events is lost like the man’s pocket watch. And the authors of the Book of Mormon text, the men who could tell us where those events took place, are not readily available to enlighten us. All we have been told is that it was someplace on the American continent. The only source we have for exactly where is the text itself."

Now I'm beginning to wonder if Poulson isn't a contrarian, a critic of the Mesoamerican theory. Because if one is relying on the text itself, one cannot support the Mesoamerican theory. Can it be?

Then I come across this: "Norman explains his methodology for map construction. He defines directions as “north/south/east/west— literal planetary cardinal directions.” Unfortunately, this definition imposes a global geocentric definition of direction on the Book of Mormon text. Clearly this text was written by an ancient agrarian culture and ignores the original concept of direction prevalent in ancient cultures."

Hmm. So Poulson is going the old, "north is not north" route. Or, as Brandt Gardner puts it, we don't have evidence of what was on the plates. All we have is Joseph's translation. And we all know that when Joseph used the word "north," he made a mistake.

That's a paraphrase, but just barely.

Sadly, Poulson then looks under his own streetlamp: "A similar study of the words translated as “east” from native Mesoamerican languages gives..." followed by yet more obfuscation based on Mayan terms for directions.

Next follows quibbles about Norman choosing the wrong Mesoamerican mountain for Cumorah, the wrong Mesoamerican site for Zarahemla, etc.

I found one redeeming comment:

"There are at least four geographic features that identify the location of the city of Zarahemla: (1) it is north of the head of the river Sidon and the narrow strip of wilderness, (2) it is on or near the west bank of the river Sidon, (3) it is south and east of the wilderness of Hermounts, and (4) it is south of the narrow neck." All good descriptions of Zarahemla--in Iowa.

Of course, Poulson then replaces "head" with "headwaters" and engages in the debate about the narrow neck being the Isthmus of Tehuantepec, this time veering into a discussion about the origin of the name Tehuantepec, as if it was named after Hermounts in Alma 2:36-8.

Another redeeming comment: "They mistakenly attribute this review (in the Times and Seasons) to Joseph Smith, although it is unlikely that he wrote it, because he was in hiding, as reported in the same issue."

Poulson is wrong about Joseph being in hiding at the time, which has been widely documented. But that's not all. He writes, "John Taylor probably wrote it." And he cites a Matt Roper article.

Matthew Roper, “Limited Geography and the Book of Mormon: Historical Antecedents and Early Interpretations,” FARMS Review 16/2 (2004): 243–48.

Poulson doesn't seem to notice the irony in this sentence: "These problematic areas in Norman’s publication suggest that perhaps he, like the man who lost his watch, is looking in the wrong place merely because 'the light is better over here.'"

That could end up being the epitaph for all the Mesoamerican publications.

:)


Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Peer Review of Nephi's Neighbors: Book of Mormon Peoples and Pre-Columbian Populations

Peer Review of Nephi's Neighbors: Book of Mormon Peoples and Pre-Columbian Populations

http://publications.maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1457&index=7

I've been reading a lot of the FARMS Review, and as I've mentioned in previous posts, there is a lot of result-oriented scholarship going on in these publications. This one might be the worst so far. As I continue to emphasize, I personally like the people at the Maxwell Institute. I think they are sincerely trying to vindicate what they believe Joseph Smith taught. But since they are defending statements he never made, they are working hard to defend nonsense. And in doing so, they are undermining what Joseph actually did say. I prefer a congenial approach in the spirit of collaboration, but, so far, no one at the Maxwell Institute has reciprocated. In this case, the paper is so flawed I can't find a way to salvage it.

Of all things, I came to this article through lds.org, at this location:

https://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-mormon-and-dna-studies

IOW, the Church is actually citing this paper. Regarding that, I'll just say, "I report, you decide."

In fact, the Maxwell Institute made a big deal about the Church citing this paper in their typical appeal to authority.

http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/dna-bom-topical-essay/?keyword=matthew%20roper

I use excerpts from this article in my presentations, usually eliciting gasps from the audience. One audience member said "Neal Maxwell would roll over in his grave if he knew what the Institute named after him was publishing." I completely agree, but to be fair, this was originally published by FARMS. Maybe one of these days the Maxwell Institute will scrub its site of this and other similar articles. But now LDS.org would have to do the same.

Which is my point. I hope to see that happen.

I'm not going to copy the whole article here. It's quite long, and much of it is an appeal to authority. But here are the two opening paragraphs, with the original in blue, my comments in red, and my editorial in purple.

ARTICLE TEXT BEGINS HERE:

The Book of Mormon describes the migration of three colonies from the Old World to the New. Two of these were small 

[Nowhere does the text say how many people were in any of the three groups, but "small" is the favored term by Mesoamerican proponents who, confronted with zero evidence of Lehite peoples in their favored location, insist Lehi and his family were a "small" group that was completely absorbed into local populations without a trace] 

Israelite groups that migrated to an American land of promise around 600 BC. Many Latter-day Saint scholars interpret the Book of Mormon as a record of events that occurred in a relatively restricted region of ancient Mesoamerica. 

[Hopefully this will change soon.] 

During and after those events, according to this view, peoples from this area—including some descendants of Book of Mormon peoples—may have spread to other parts of the Americas, carrying with them some elements of Mesoamerican culture. These Latter-day Saint scholars also believe that pre-Columbian populations of the Americas include within their ancestry many groups other than those small colonies mentioned in the Book of Mormon.

[Note 1 consists of two citations to Sorenson's work, which of course requires "small colonies" that essentially vanished. Presumably other scholars agree, so I won't quibble with the plural here, but when my students claim plural sources and only cite one author, I mark them down.]


A recent critic of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has complained that "some LDS scholars, especially those associated with FARMS, . . . reinterpret Lamanite identity in the later part of the twentieth century"2 and thereby "implicitly reject long-standing popular Mormon beliefs, including those held by Joseph Smith, about Lamanites being the ancestors of today's American Indians."3 

[Notice that Tom Murphy's complaint is not refuted here. That's wise; Murphy is correct.] 

Of course, popular beliefs, longstanding or otherwise, are not crucial to the foundations of the faith of Latter-day Saints, which are based on revealed scripture.4 

[This sentence is true, but it contravenes the appeal to authority Roper made just a few sentences ago; i.e., that "many LDS scholars" (IOW, the popular belief) advocate the Mesoamerican theory, "small colonies," and the like. Worse, we're going to see that Roper does anything but adhere to revealed scripture.]  

In regard to the ancestry of the Amerindians, the central issue for Latter-day Saints is not whether Native Americans are in some measure descendants of Israel but whether their ancestors are exclusively Israelite

[This is exactly backwards. As Roper admits in the next sentence, the scriptures care whether the Indians are "descendants of Israel," to use Roper's phrase. The notion that they had to be "exclusively Israelite" is what Orson Pratt advocated, and what Joseph expressly repudiated when he edited Pratt's writing in the Wentworth letter. So from the outset, Roper establishes a premise rejected by Joseph Smith. Worse, no one is arguing that the Indians had to be exclusively Israelite. What critics point out is that the DNA in Central America shows zero evidence of Israelite ancestry. IOW, they are exclusively non-Israelite! That's the issue Roper should be addressing, but he can't, so he creates this straw-man argument that compounds the error of his initial premise.] 

But the Latter-day scriptures speak of a remnant of those people described in the Book of Mormon and of their prophetic destiny, suggesting that this remnant may be found among Native American groups known perhaps to Joseph Smith and others. 

[As we'll see, Joseph said the remnant of the Book of Mormon people are the inhabitants of "this country," which plainly means the United States. At the time, the U.S. consisted of states from the east coast to the Mississippi, plus Missouri, Arkansas and Louisiana. What neither Joseph nor the scriptures claimed was that people outside "this country" were the remnant. IOW, he never claimed the people in Mesoamerica were the remnant. And the scriptures did more than "suggest" that "this remnant" "may be found" among "Native American groups" "known perhaps to Joseph Smith." It's difficult to conceive of a sentence that packs in more hedging that this one. Why? Purely because Roper is going to argue that Joseph didn't know what he was talking about.] 

While these revelations affirm an Israelite component to Native American ancestry, they never claim that all the Native Americans' ancestors were Israelite, nor do they deny the presence of other peoples in pre-Columbian America. 

[This wording is accurate, but not the way Roper intends it. The revelations never claim that "all the Native Americans' ancestors were Israelite" because they never claim any Native Americans outside "this country" had ancestors who were Israelite. It's also true that they do not deny the presence of other peoples in pre-Columbian America--but that's because they were only dealing with the history of the people who formerly lived in "this country." Roper doesn't realize he is refuting the Mesoamerican theory here, but as we'll see, he does.]

But there is no good reason to assume that Native American lineages and ancestors must be exclusively Israelite.
[Not only is there "no good reason" to assume Native American lineages and ancestors (even those of the North American tribes) must be exclusively Israelite, there is good reason to say they were not exclusive. That's the argument Roper should be making. When he wrote the Wentworth letter, Joseph Smith corrected Orson Pratt's assertion that Lehi's party were "Israelites, principally the descendants of Joseph." Joseph changed this to read, "They were principally Israelites, of the descendants of Joseph." IOW, Joseph claimed that even Lehi's party were not exclusively Israelite. So whatever one believes about the ancestry of the Native Americans generally, we know the descendants of Lehi's party were not exclusively Israelite. Roper is arguing against Orson Pratt, an argument Pratt lost against Joseph in 1842. Actually, Roper is arguing against his own straw man here.]  

In regard to the nature and identity of Lehi's people, Latter-day Saints have held a variety of opinions and expressed several interpretations historically, but whether some Native Americans, or many Native Americans, or even all Native Americans have Lehi as an ancestor, it does not follow that they did not have others.6 

[This is an important point about ancestry, but it's a straw man again, because at least some of the people who came with Lehi didn't have him as an ancestor; i.e., Zoram and Ishmael's children who weren't married to Lehi's children. But it's the "variety of opinions" here that is problematic. Joseph specifically wrote that that the people who came were "principally Israelites." Why should anyone else's opinion matter?]
Although a few statements made by Joseph Smith are sometimes used to justify the critics' complaints, they are not inconsistent with the idea that other people came to the Americas in pre-Columbian times. Also, a review of the development of Latter-day Saint ideas about pre-Columbian peoples as they relate to the Book of Mormon makes it clear that the idea that others resided in Lehi's promised land is not a recent revisionist conclusion or a ploy to deflect recent criticism. While not the only view, it is, in fact, an interpretation that has been discussed and entertained in Latter-day Saint literature in both the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The very few scripturally based potential objections that critics have raised against this interpretation are overwhelmed by the countering scriptural evidence presented below, all of which, I am persuaded, makes the best sense under the assumption that there were other pre-Columbian peoples in the American land of promise. 

[The fascinating aspect of this argument is the critics are relying on Joseph Smith's statements, while Roper is trying to show Joseph was wrong, or ignorant, about the topic. Which side is apologist and which is critical?]
The article continues with a section titled "Joseph Smith and Indian Ancestry." It quotes portions of the American Revivalist letter, including this statement:

"By [the Book of Mormon], we learn that our western tribes of Indians, are descendants from that Joseph that was sold into Egypt, and that the land of America is a promised land unto them.7"


Then we have this comment:

The Book of Mormon may indeed be said to be a record of the forefathers of the American Indians, but Joseph Smith never claimed that it was the only one, nor need we believe from this statement that the Book of Mormon accounts for all the ancestors of Native Americans. 

[Fair enough. Joseph was only speaking about "our western tribes of Indians," most of which had been relocated (removed) from the eastern U.S. by the federal government. But that is precisely the point! Joseph consistently identified these Indians as the descendants of Joseph. Ironically, it is the Mesoamerican theory promoted by the Maxwell Institute, a theory that Joseph never even suggested (much less approved), that has given the critics grounds to make the arguments that Roper here is trying to refute. IOW, if not for the Mesoamerican theory, we would have no need to dilute Joseph's teachings to deal with the DNA of people in Latin America.]

The article refers to another statement by Joseph:

In another statement made in 1835, Joseph Smith described the visit of an angel to him twelve years earlier: "He told me of a sacred record which was written on plates of gold. I saw in the vision the place where they were deposited. He said the Indians were the literal descendants of Abraham."8
This statement affirms the claim that Native Americans are descendants of Abraham, but it does not follow that this is the whole story. My great-great-grandfather is John Whetten, but it would not be reasonable to assume that in making this statement I am declaring that I have no other ancestors. Joseph Smith's statement plainly allows for Abraham to be one ancestor among many others. 

[Fair enough--an important point, to be sure--but the larger point is that Joseph here still does not claim that the people living in Mesoamerica descended from Abraham. That claim is being made by the Maxwell Institute.]

Next, the article quotes from Joseph Smith-History 1:34. I will bold the significant passages:

In his 1838 account of Moroni's visit, the Prophet recounted: "He said there was a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang; he also said that the fulness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it, as delivered by the Savior to the ancient inhabitants" (Joseph Smith—History 1:34). Does this mean that the Book of Mormon tells us everything about Native American history and ancestry?
...one can accept Joseph Smith's description of the Book of Mormon as an account of the ancient inhabitants of the promised land without insisting that it tells about all of them. 

[Roper's points here are axiomatic, but it's important to pay attention to Roper's word choices. When Joseph wrote "inhabitants of this continent," Roper uses "Native American" and "promised land" to give a broader interpretation because he wants to expand everything to Latin America, as we will see.]

Now the articles explores the Wentworth letter. I will bold some of the key phrases from the article that I put in my presentations. 

In 1842, at the request of John Wentworth, Joseph Smith prepared a brief outline of the events surrounding the early history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As part of this account, the Prophet described the visit of the angel Moroni in 1823.
I was also informed concerning the aboriginal inhabitants of this country, and shown who they were, and from whence they came; a brief sketch of their origin, progress, civilization, laws, governments, of their righteousness and iniquity, and the blessings of God being finally withdrawn from them as a people was made known to me.9
Neither the Wentworth letter nor any other Joseph Smith account gives us a transcription of Moroni's actual words to Joseph Smith. 

[Of course, the implication here is that Joseph either misunderstood Moroni, misrepresented what Moroni told him, or passed off his personal (and uninformed) opinions as Moroni's. This is akin to what Brandt Gardner has said about the Book of Mormon; i.e, that we don't have evidence of what the plates said, because the only evidence we have is what Joseph said the plates said.] 

Since Moroni offered Joseph Smith only a "brief sketch," it is unlikely that he revealed to Joseph a comprehensive knowledge of Native American origins. 

[Notice that Joseph referred to "the aboriginal inhabitants of this country," not to the inhabitants of any other country. He never claimed knowledge of Latin America. So Roper is correct--it is unlikely (and contrary to the plain meaning of the words) that Moroni revealed to Joseph "a comprehensive knowledge of Native American origins" if that would include Latin America. But again, it is Roper and the Maxwell Institute who are claiming the Book of Mormon events took place in Latin America. They have created a false narrative that critics have attacked (rightfully so in my opinion) and now they are trying to diminish Joseph's knowledge in a futile effort to defend their narrative. Any "brief sketch" that covers "their origin, progress, civilization, laws, governments, of their righteousness and iniquity" could not be as cursory as Roper wants it to be. Understand that his motivation here is to downplay Joseph's knowledge of the Nephite civilization. According to the Maxwell Institute's Mesoamerican theory, Joseph was speculating along with everyone else. So even though Joseph said Moroni offered a "brief sketch," he also itemized all the specific topics covered, ranging from their laws and civilization to their righteousness and iniquity. That's a pretty comprehensive scope, regardless of how in depth it was. The Book of Mormon itself is a "brief sketch" of exactly what Joseph listed here--it's only one-hundredth of the history. But does that make the sketch unreliable? Note also that Joseph was "shown who they were." If a picture is a thousand words, the "brief sketch" was like notes or commentary on what he saw. How can anyone today decide what Joseph Smith saw or didn't see? Now, look at how Roper characterizes all of this.] 

Within the context of introducing the plates, a more likely interpretation is that Moroni simply gave Joseph Smith a general description of the Book of Mormon story of Lehi's people who came from the land of Jerusalem. There is no need to read into this statement any more than this. 

[It is not "reading into this statement" to note that the statement itself referred to "the aboriginal inhabitants of this country." What is reading into this statement is the proposition that Joseph meant "some of the aboriginal inhabitants of Latin America," which is how the Maxwell Institute interprets this passage from the Wentworth letter. Actually, the Maxwell Institute really interprets this to mean "a small minority of the aboriginal inhabitants of Mesoamerica who were completely absorbed into the existing culture and genetics and have entirely disappeared as a result."]
After giving an account of the visitation of Moroni, the Prophet provided a description of the Book of Mormon as follows:
In this important and interesting book the history of ancient America is unfolded, from its first settlement by a colony that came from the tower of Babel, at the confusion of languages to the beginning of the fifth century of the Christian era. We are informed by these records that America in ancient times has been inhabited by two distinct races of people. The first were called Jaredites and came directly from the tower of Babel. The second race came directly from the city of Jerusalem, about six hundred years before Christ. They were principally Israelites, of the descendants of Joseph. The Jaredites were destroyed about the time that the Israelites came from Jerusalem, who succeeded them in the inheritance of the country. The principal nation of the second race fell in battle towards the close of the fourth century. The remnant are the Indians that now inhabit this country. . . . For a more particular account I would refer to the Book of Mormon.10
[First, I note that the Curriculum Committee omitted this passage from the Priesthood/Relief Society manual on the Teachings of Joseph Smith. Even though they dedicated an entire chapter to the Wentworth letter, they specifically deleted these sentences. Is anyone from the Maxwell Institute on the Curriculum Committee?] 

Does this statement discredit the idea of other people coming to the Americas because Joseph Smith only mentions two groups? 

[If not for the Maxwell Institute, the answer would be no. Joseph specifically spoke of the Indians that now inhabit this country--the United States. He said nothing about the people in the Latin America (or even the western U.S. that still belonged to Mexico and/or Great Britain in 1842.) Roper here poses a question that has become relevant only because of the Maxwell Institute's insistence that the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica. Sorry to keep repeating this, but it is implicit in nearly every paragraph of this article.] 

Since Joseph Smith refers to the Jaredite colony as the "first settlement" of ancient America, are Latter-day Saints required to believe that no other people came to the Americas before that time? 

[See? The plain meaning of Joseph's statement is that the Jaredites were the first settlement in ancient America. If he was referring to the area later colonized by the Nephites--i.e., the American heartland and northeast--that's far more plausible than Roper's insistence that Joseph was referring to the entire hemisphere. IOW, a limited North American geography doesn't require the Book of Mormon to explain anything outside that territory. The west coast, Central America, and all of South America could be colonized by the Chinese or other Asians having nothing to do with the Book of Mormon, all consistent with Joseph  Smith's statement. Instead, the Mesoamerican theory has to insist his words were not inspired; i.e., he didn't learn this from Moroni, from a vision, etc.] 

First, it is important to note that in the Wentworth letter, Joseph Smith starts with what the angel told him and then provides his own description of the Book of Mormon narrative for the press. Consequently, his words about the Jaredite and Israelite migrations do not come from the angel Moroni. In fact, this wording, for the most part, did not even originate with Joseph Smith but is essentially adapted from Orson Pratt's 1840 pamphlet on the Book of Mormon,11 as the following comparison shows.

I won't copy the entire comparison in the interests of time and space, but anyone who wants to can go to Roper's article. There are two aspects of the comparison between Pratt and Joseph Smith that are critical. First, much of the Wentworth letter, especially in this passage, Joseph took word for word from Orson Pratt. Second, Joseph made specific edits that have great significance.

Realize that Roper is only comparing particular lines here. Orson Pratt's original manuscript described Book of Mormon geography at some length. There's no question he was describing a hemispheric setting, with the focal point at the "narrow neck" in Central America. Pratt's original is available here: 


http://olivercowdery.com/texts/Prat1840.htm#p18a

Search for "multitude" and you can see the two variations of the text. Pratt's imaginative, hemispheric version seems to be what Sorenson ridiculed as science fiction in his famous footnote in Mormon's Codex. Sorenson was right to reject Pratt's hemispheric theory (although I think his ridicule was unbecoming), but had he and the other Mesoamerican proponents paid attention to the Wentworth letter, they would also have rejected the limited geography Mesoamerican theory.

Here's why. The first edit Joseph made, which I mentioned above, involves the change Joseph made to Pratt's pamphlet regarding the Lehites being "principally Israelites, of the descendants of Joseph" instead of "Israelites, principally the descendants of Joseph." 

Far more significant is the next change Joseph made, as shown in the Roper's article:

Orson Pratt 1840

The remaining remnant, having dwindled into an uncivilized state, still continue to inhabit the land, although divided into a "multitude of nations," and are called by Europeans the "American Indians."
Wentworth Letter 1842 (Joseph Smith)

The remnant are the Indians that now inhabit this country.

Pratt's version summarizes the hemispheric model, which Sorenson and others have collapsed into the Mesoamerican model. The key elements are "inhabit the land" which can mean anywhere in the hemisphere, "multitude of nations" which can mean the many nations established by the Europeans (including Panama, Guatemala, and Mexico), and "called by the Europeans the 'American Indians'" which was the term used for all indigenous inhabitants of the Americas, North and South.

Joseph took Pratt's language, including several pages of hemispheric/Mesoamerican description, and reduced it to a single declarative statement. According to Joseph, the remnant of the Book of Mormon people are much easier to identify. They are simply--and exclusively--the "Indians that now inhabit this country."

Now it is more apparent why Roper insists Joseph's "words about the Jaredite and Israelite migrations do not come from the angel Moroni." He (and the Maxwell Institute generally) makes this claim not because Joseph denied, or even implied, that his knowledge did not come from Moroni, but purely because what Joseph wrote is inconsistent with what Roper and the Maxwell Institute believe! 

I'll repeat that in other words. Although Joseph declared he had learned about the Book of Mormon peoples in vision and in interviews with Moroni, according to Roper the things Joseph wrote that Roper disagrees with (because they contradict the Mesoamerican theory) are things Joseph did not learn from Moroni but were merely Joseph's own opinion.


Every Mesoamerican advocate takes essentially the same position. Even in this paper, Roper does not address Joseph's edit of Pratt's language on this issue. It's difficult to imagine how Joseph could have been any clearer on this point. He could have gone on to specifically exclude the Indians outside the U.S., but the Wentworth letter was a "sketch of the rise, progress, persecution, and faith of the Latter-day Saints." It is accurate, but not intended to refute the multiplicity of possible interpretations or future speculation such as the Mesoamerican theory. 

Roper next discusses the Jaredites:

Second, the Jaredite migration is the earliest migration to America mentioned in the Book of Mormon, but the Book of Mormon itself does not claim that the Jaredites were the first human beings in the New World. When Joseph Smith's statement is read within its context of the Wentworth letter, it is clear that he was actually, at that point, offering a general description of the time span of the book, indicating that the Book of Mormon narrative stretches from the Jaredite settlement to the beginning of the fifth century AD. In so doing, he was not necessarily designating the Jaredite settlement as the oldest in the land, but merely as the oldest mentioned in the Book of Mormon account. 

[Joseph wrote, "We are informed by these records that America in ancient times has been inhabited by two distinct races of people. The first were called Jaredites." Roper interprets this to mean not that there were only two races of people, but that these two were the only ones the Book of Mormon mentions. Fair enough.] 

Perhaps, like many other Latter-day Saints, he assumed [More mind-reading. Given what Joseph said about seeing, and being tutored by Moroni about, " the aboriginal inhabitants of this country," it is difficult to compare Joseph to "many other Latter-day Saints" whose knowledge consists of assumptions. This is another example of the way Roper and other Mesoamerican advocates downplay Joseph's revelatory experiences and teachings.] that the Jaredites were the first settlers of ancient America, but this goes beyond what the Book of Mormon says. It specifically mentions three migrations to the Americas but never claims that they were the only ones or the earliest. 

[Joseph does describe the Jaredites as the first of the races that inhabited America, which is what critics rely on. I argue that the limited North American geography responds to the critics, but Roper's argument is a plausible interpretation. That it's motivated by his desire to defend the Mesoamerican theory does not render his point invalid.]
Here is how Roper concludes this section: 
Finally, Joseph Smith's description of the contents of the Book of Mormon in the Wentworth letter gives a brief overview of the text and not a comprehensive account. [Agreed, although Joseph adds details not in the text, such as the "principally Israelite" explanation and the specific identification of the remnant.] For instance, Joseph did not say that America was inhabited by only two races of people in pre-Columbian times, although presumably he could have said so. [Joseph spoke of "America" in terms of the area inhabited by the two races of people, but he spoke of "this country" in terms of the remnant of the second nation. He also says Lehi's people "succeeded" the Jaredites "in the inheritance of the country." A careful reading limits the discussion to 1842 United States for the remnant and the inheritance, but does allow broader settlement (probably through migration) of the hemisphere by both people anciently.]  In the course of the letter, he directed the reader to the contents of the Book of Mormon three different times and on the third time advised, "For a more particular account I would refer to the Book of Mormon." In other words, Joseph Smith considered the Book of Mormon itself, rather than his letter to Wentworth, to be the authoritative word on the subject. [Here Roper puts thoughts into Joseph's mind that are not reflected in what he wrote. Joseph directed readers to the book for "a more particular account," not a more correct account. For detail, the reader should focus on the text, but for accuracy, Joseph's letter is also reliable. After all, the letter also contains the Articles of Faith.]

Roper's next section is titled "Latter-day Saint Views on Other Pre-Columbians." He begins by citing the 1842 Times and Seasons articles:

The idea of other pre-Columbian migrations to the Americas has a long history and can be traced back to the earliest Latter-day Saints. In the 15 September 1842 issue of the Times and Seasons, the editor—Joseph Smith, according to the paper's masthead—cited favorably an account of Don Juan Torres, grandson of the last king of the Quiché Maya...

As I noted at the outset, Roper wrote this before we realized Benjamin Winchester wrote those articles, so there's no point criticizing his reliance on the articles here. Time will tell whether Roper and the Maxwell Institute will retract this and all other articles that rely on those articles. Based on my personal communication with him on this specific point, I'm not holding my breath. However, it remains significant that these articles are the first authority Roper cites. The next authority is Orson Pratt, whose views Joseph Smith specifically edited out when he wrote the Wentworth letter.
Roper goes on to quote various authorities, including Anthony W. Ivins, for the proposition that the Book of Mormon "does not tell us that there was no one here before them. It does not tell us that people did not come after. And so if discoveries are made which suggest differences in race origins, it can very easily be accounted for, and reasonably, for we do believe that other people came to this continent."32
Notice here that Roper fails to inform readers that in General Conference the previous year, President Ivins declared in no uncertain terms that the hill Cumorah of Mormon 6:6 is in New York. This is not surprising because the New York Cumorah contradicts Roper's geography theories.

Roper provides a useful history of the development of Book of Mormon geography theories. He notes:
"Brant Gardner has marshaled additional evidence suggesting that the Nephites were a minority people in the midst of many other Mesoamerican groups with whom they interacted.53"

All of this research is useful, but ultimately it goes to prove there were other people in the Americas--particularly in Mesoamerica--who did not have Lehi's DNA. I view this as proving the American theory of Book of Mormon geography; i.e., I agree with Roper that there were non-Lehite people in Mesoamerica. But that's the inverse of proving there were Lehite people there! 

Here is Roper's conclusion:

Conclusion
It is true that the assumption that Native Americans are of exclusively Israelite heritage has been around for a number of years. Unfortunately for those who would like to use it to denounce the Book of Mormon, it is neither revelatory nor canonical. [Worse, it contradicts Joseph's own statement in the Wentworth letter--a statement that is all the more significant because it is an edit--a repudiation--of Orson Pratt's incorrect theory on the subject. Roper should have made that point, and probably would have it he wasn't so eager to undermine the plain meaning--and the overall validity--of the Wentworth letter.] Regardless of who may have believed or propounded it in the past or under what circumstances they may have done so, it has never been anything more than an uncanonized, unscriptural assumption.
On the other hand, many Latter-day Saints over the years, including a number of church leaders, have acknowledged the likelihood that before, during, and following the events recounted in the Book of Mormon, the American hemisphere has been visited and inhabited by nations, kindreds, tongues, and peoples not mentioned in the text. They also concede that these groups may have significantly impacted the populations of the Americas genetically, culturally, linguistically, and in many other ways. Latter-day Saint interest in historical and scientific evidence for such migrations began early in the history of the restored church and has not waned appreciably since then. [Absolutely. This is all the more significant because Joseph made it clear that the remnant of Lehi's people are the Indians living in the United States as it was constituted in 1842. The other groups of people in the Americas were children of God, but not Lehi's descendants.]
Finally, neither in the Book of Mormon itself nor in the scriptural revelations concerning it is there anything to contradict the view that Nephi had neighbors in his New World land of promise. There is, on the other hand, much within these sources that seems to support this idea. Like the God whose gospel they proclaim, these scriptures and revelations are not respecters of persons. They insist upon a place for Israel in the ancestral heritage of Native Americans, but they do not insist upon an exclusive one. [I think this is overstating the case. The Nephites seem to have thought it was just them and the Lamanites, but of course their worldview would be limited by their experience. To say "much within these sources" (by which I assume he means the Book of Mormon and the D&C) supports the idea of Nephi's neighbors is a big stretch. At best, one can make inferences from a few isolated passages.]
Overall, the problem is not with Nephi's neighbors in Nephite/Lamanite territory in the American setting (mainly along the Mississippi River and east), but with the vast civilizations outside the American setting. In my view, the Book of Mormon says nothing directly about these people. It is possible that they are remnants of the Jaredites, a topic I address elsewhere.  

As this article demonstrates, it is very difficult--I find it impossible--to reconcile the plain meaning of what Joseph Smith said and wrote with the Mesoamerican theory and its implications. 

This is why Mesoamerican advocates are forced to reject Joseph's teachings, or use semantics to change their meaning. 

This article is just another example the ongoing effort by the Maxwell Institute to adjust the Book of Mormon and Church History to fit the Mesoamerican theory. That effort needs to stop.


Sunday, April 12, 2015

Promised land filter

At the conference last night, I evaluated the 3 filters John Sorenson set out in Mormon's Codex. Then I evaluated some additional filters. If I get a chance I'll list those in a post, but for now, I'll summarize the filter on the Promised Land.




Saturday, April 11, 2015

Conference

I've been attending a fantastic conference about the Book of Mormon. Soon I'll post some comments about the presentations, but I'll summarize it by saying the Book of Mormon has never been stronger.
:)

Tuesday, April 7, 2015

Open tabs

Here are the tabs open on my computer screen right now:

http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/OH/miscohio.htm

http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/oh/miscoh02.htm

http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/BOMP/id/244

S., A. “The Golden Bible, or, Campbellism Improved.” Observer and Telegraph (Hudson, Ohio) (18 November 1830).

http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/from-the-east-to-the-west-the-problem-of-directions-in-the-book-of-mormon/

http://www.bookofmormonpromisedland.com/Gross%20Geographies.htm

http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/inattentional-blindness-seeing-and-not-seeing-the-book-of-mormon/

http://www.21stcentech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mississippi_watershed.png

http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/10/royal-skousens-12-questions-the-critical-text-version/

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~nwsfo/storage/cases/20080119/us.topo.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=usage+of+%22which%22+in+Early+Modern+English&oq=usage+of+%22which%22+in+Early+Modern+English&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.12831j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=usage+of+%22which%22+clauses+in+Early+Modern+English

https://books.google.com/books?id=y9ChTlB59BAC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=emode+early+modern+english+usage+of+%22which%22&source=bl&ots=Nx7i3DZdT1&sig=_s3OYUCjWLiyILlaf7bC0vgr4ms&hl=en&sa=X&ei=V-UjVb6fI872oASG7ICQCw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=which&f=false

Intro to Early Modern English, search for "which"

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/8?lang=eng

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/alma/22?lang=eng

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/25.7?lang=eng#6

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/morm/8?lang=eng

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/morm/3?lang=eng

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/lieutenant-colonel-george-washington-builds-fort-necessity

http://www.warforempire.org/relive/george_washington.aspx

http://galliagenealogy.org/History/ohiovalleyhistory.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years'_War#North_America

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/moravian-missionary-david-zeisberger-is-born

http://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/

http://www.warforempire.org/visit/site_listing.aspx?state=west_virginia&c=visit

http://portcitiesreview.com/lincolns-mystery-mound-tour-by-geoffrey-sea/

http://www.southernperspectives.net/tag/textiles

https://www.zotero.org/lmullen/items/itemKey/KSS2B4U3

Estimating Aboriginal American Population: An Appraisal of Techniques with a New Hemispheric Estimate

Dobyns, Henry F.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1919159?sid=21106368603053&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739928&uid=3739256

http://bookofmormonresources.blogspot.com/2012/08/sidon-east-then-west.html

http://bookofmormonresources.blogspot.com/2012/05/captain-moroni-in-space-and-time.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iFn02BpEpE

http://centerplace.org/

TIMES AND SEASONS

SEPTEMBER 1, 1843. 
Viator and "researches"


http://signaturebooks.com/2012/09/an-imperfect-book-what-the-book-of-mormon-tells-us-about-itself/

http://www.wheatandtares.org/12141/the-book-of-mormon-an-imperfect-book/

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/faithpromotingrumor/2013/06/the-land-northward-and-the-land-of-moron-in-the-book-of-ether/

http://www.millennialstar.org/fairmormon-conf-bob-rees-earl-wunderlis-imperfect-book/

https://byustudies.byu.edu/showTitle.aspx?title=9517

Muslims at BYU

http://user.xmission.com/~research/central/reply.htm

Vogel to Christensen

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/mapping-book-of-mormon-historicity-debates-a-guide-for-the-overwhelmed-part-ii/

https://ojs.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.php/MSR/article/viewFile/31990/30236
Hedges review of View of the Hebrews

http://signaturebookslibrary.org/?p=22017
Digging in Cumorah by Mark Thomas

https://www.google.com/search?q=map+of+Sorenson%27s+book+of+mormon+model&espv=2&biw=1050&bih=703&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=dPgiVeKtLI3ZoATo5IG4Cg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgdii=_&imgrc=IdKFVjDl9nFjEM%253A%3BYsuc9m-1jQcdjM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.fairmormon.org%252Fimages%252F0%252F0c%252FSorenson1985-plausible.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.fairmormon.org%252FBook_of_Mormon_geography%252FModels%252FLimited%252FSorenson_1955%3B738%3B466

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Book_of_Mormon_Lands_and_Sites2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_geography_model&h=1024&w=1280&tbnid=pEYCphTSe-DI0M:&zoom=1&docid=406Gma6W5nosOM&ei=ePgiVfiXOJayoQS5sYDICA&tbm=isch&ved=0CCAQMygDMAM

http://www.bookofmormongeography.org/basics/models-reviewed/book-of-mormon-geography-errors-rodney-meldrum.html



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/print/865625766/Decline-of-marriage-is-a-primary-reason-for-inequality.html

http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/IFS-ForRicherForPoorer-Final_Web.pdf






Kudos to Kirk Magleby

So far, of all the Mesoamerican proponents, I think Kirk Magleby has done the best job. With just a few exceptions, he reads the text and doesn't change it the way Sorenson and so many others do. I suspect Kirk doesn't realize that he's reading the text to fit his model. For example, he writes:

"The fact that the Nephites and Mulekites remained oblivious to each other for so long implies extraordinarily difficult terrain between them." 

As he points out, according to his model, these people were only 320 kilometers (about 200 miles) apart. In 400 years they're never going to run into one another? When they were both part of a far larger Mayan population? Kirk ought to rethink his model; i.e., he has the two groups much too close together.

One aspect of this that undermines the whole Mesoamerican theory is that the Nephites found it remarkable to discover Zarahemla, and Zarahemla was excited to be discovered, but they were both supposedly living among long-established Mayan cultures. If any Mesoamerican proponents have explained this, I haven't seen the explanation yet.

Here is Kirk's overview of Book of Mormon lands:

http://bookofmormonresources.blogspot.com/2012/07/book-of-mormon-model.html

If only he would apply his expertise to North America, we'd be getting somewhere.

The biggest stumbling block for Kirk is probably the River Sidon. Here is the Q&As he provides, with my comments in bold:

Q. How do we know the river Sidon flowed south to north?

A1. Near the land of Zarahemla, the hill Amnihu Alma 2:15, 17 and the valley of Gideon Alma 6:7 were both east of the river Sidon. Near the city of Zarahemla, the river Sidon had a west bank Alma 2:34. These data points all imply a general north/south orientation for the river in that part of its course. Okay.

A2. Beyond (south of) the land of Manti, a south wilderness Alma 16:6, 7 lay east of the river Sidon. This implies a general north/south orientation for the river in that part of its course. Okay.

A3. Upstream from (south of) the land of Manti Alma 43:32, Captain Moroni placed part of the Nephite army west of the river Sidon Alma 43:27 and another part east of the river Sidon Alma 43:53. These data points imply a general north/south orientation for the river in that part of its course. Okay, except for the "upstream from" part. Stick with the text and write "south of" instead.

A4. One verse in the text has been interpreted to mean that the river Sidon flowed from east to west in part of its course. Alma 22:27 is ambiguous. It could mean that the river Sidon flowed from east to west at that point. Given the repetitive nature of Mormon's phrasing, though, it is more likely that all the east to west references in Alma 22:27-29 refer to the narrow strip of wilderness that separated Nephite lands on the north from Lamanite lands on the south. The text mentions several geographic entities or human activities either east or west of the river Sidon. The text never mentions entities or activities directly north or south of the Sidon. All of these data points reinforce the notion that the Sidon flowed in a general north/south direction over most of its length. 
Good catch, Kirk, but you dropped the ball. The Sidon flows both north/south and east/west because the Nephites called the entire river system "Sidon" and, as you acknowledge elsewhere, the head of the river was the confluence of the east/west tributaries. The narrow strip of wilderness was the border demarked by the east/west tributaries. 

A5. The land of Manti was south of the land of Zarahemla Alma 17:1. The land of Manti was also near the head of the river Sidon Alma 43:22. From the head of the river Sidon, one went down in elevation to Zarahemla Alma 56:25. These data points indicate that the river Sidon flowed generally northward from Manti to Zarahemla.
Except, that’s not what the scripture says. Alma 56:25 "Neither durst they march down against the city of Zarahemla; neither durst they cross the head of Sidon, over to the city of Nephihah." Those were two separate options: either cross or go down to Zarahemla. It is just as likely they would have had to go down to cross as that they would have had to go up to cross. You're assuming they were already at the head of Sidon, but that's not what the text says. 

A6. The greater land of Nephi was south of the greater land of Zarahemla Alma 50:7. An east/west dividing line separating the two lands ran by the head of the river Sidon Alma 50:11. To go from Zarahemla to Nephi, one went up in elevation Alma 2:24. Therefore, the river Sidon which bordered the land of Zarahemla Alma 2:15 flowed generally from south to north.
True, Nephi was both south and higher in elevation. But the river didn't flow through the highlands of Nephi--it flowed through a river valley to the sea. This is like saying the castles along the Rhine River are lower than, say, Wiesbaden, which is in the river valley--up stream.



A7. The Mulekites made landfall in the land northward Alma 22:30, then founded their capital, Zarahemla, in the land southward Mormon 1:6 along the Sidon Mormon 1:10. As the Mulekites traveled south from the seacoast they went up in elevation Alma 22:31. This means the Sidon flowed downhill toward the north.
Except, that’s not what the scripture says.