long ago ideas

“When we are tired, we are attacked by ideas we conquered long ago." - Friedrich Nietzsche. Long ago, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery conquered false claims that the Book of Mormon was fiction or that it came through a stone in a hat. But these old claims have resurfaced in recent years. To conquer them again, we have to return to what Joseph and Oliver taught.

Monday, November 6, 2017

update on watching General Conference with your BYU/CES teacher

A few days ago I posted a comment about watching General Conference with your BYU/CES teacher. http://bookofmormonwars.blogspot.com/2017/10/watching-general-conference-with-your.html

It turns out, there are some BYU/CES teachers who support and sustain the united and consistent position of the prophets and apostles who have spoken about the New York Cumorah for over 150 years.

These teachers just are not well known because the people who control FairMormon, Book of Mormon Central, BYU Studies, the Interpreter, the Maxwell Institute, and Meridian Magazine don't allow them to publish or even comment about their beliefs. As we all know by now, those groups censor anything that threatens their Mesomania editorial stance.

There are also many Church employees who support and sustain the prophets and apostles.

A reader sent in this correction.

Well I don't know about Church employees who work for public relations, media, magazines, etc., but as a Church employee in the Family History Department (and formerly in the ICS department), I can tell you there are a LOT of employees and senior missionaries who are completely on board with what the prophets and apostles have said about Cumorah. It has been my experience (repeatedly) that they recognize the truth when they hear it, just as they did when first reading the Book of Mormon--it resonates in their souls.

I have yet to meet anyone who sincerely studied the Heartland Model who rejected it. All those I have met who still wallow in Mesomania have never given any serious thought to the Heartland and the research done about it, except for scholars whose livelihood and reputation rely on the furthering of their Mesoamerican pseudo-theory.

I appreciate this comment and I apologize to any Church employees who I inadvertently may have lumped in with Mesoamerican advocates. I know of many Church employees who support and sustain the prophets and apostles regarding the New York Cumorah.

The problem really is with a handful of intellectuals who run FairMormon, Book of Mormon Central, BYU Studies, the Interpreter, and the Maxwell Institute, as well as some faculty at BYU and CES who contribute to and support those groups. These people are determined to continue foisting the Mesoamerican dogma on their students and readers, as they have been doing for decades. They openly repudiate the prophets and apostles about the New York Cumorah, which, in my opinion, is a breach of their fiduciary responsibility as teachers at BYU/CES.

I also agree with the reader's comment about those who assess the two scenarios with an open mind. You will notice if you engage in any discussions with Mesoamerican proponents that they have a Groupthink interpretation of the text that drives everything they think, say, and write. Even though they can't agree among themselves, they insist their interpretation is the only viable one, and their Groupthink is so powerful they have no problem repudiating the prophets and apostles whenever they contradict their Mesoamerican dogma. 

Few Church members (apart from the Mesoamerican proponents) knowingly reject the prophets and apostles. 

That's why the Mesoamerican proponents refuse to publish any fair comparisons between the North American and Mesoamerican settings. They don't want Church members to realize how fully they have repudiated the prophets and apostles regarding the New York Cumorah.

From the outset of this blog, I've freely and openly linked to the Mesoamerican proponents' publications. I want more Church members to realize what these intellectuals are teaching our youth. I don't think their sophistry can withstand even cursory scrutiny, but they have been getting away with it for years because they control the "scholarly" publications.

I invite those who have seen through the fog of the Mesoamerican arguments to speak out more openly. I think we'll find that the vast majority of members of the Church support the prophets and apostles, and they reject the intellectuals once they realize what has been going on.

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