On the way home from the South Pacific I had a chance to stop in California and spend some time with Cardon Ellis at Ward Radio. He's awesome, very energetic and knowledgeable, as well as thoughtful and insightful.
It's cool to be able to discuss these issues openly with no contention, all in the pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding. And with some fun as well.
Here is the first of our interviews. Hopefully we'll get a chance to explore more issues in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ScBh9_E97E
Enjoy and comment.
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